From this morning’s San Diego Union-Tribune:
Suspect in rifle slaying of Jamul man surrenders
By Pauline Repard
December 16, 2006
A fugitive suspected of fatally shooting a passenger in a Jeep in Jamul two weeks ago turned himself in yesterday, sheriff’s officials said.
Joseph “Bob” Orlosky, 55, of Jamul surrendered at the Central Jail in downtown San Diego about 4:30 p.m. in the company of his attorney, sheriff’s Lt. Dennis Brugos said.
Orlosky was booked on suspicion of one count of murder and two counts of attempted murder. Bail was set at $2 million.
Last week, homicide investigators identified Orlosky as the suspect in the attack. Charles Crow, 23, of Jamul was shot and killed Dec. 1, and one of his two companions was wounded.
The three men were in a Jeep, driving along Wisecarver Truck Trail near Skyline Truck Trail about 8:30 p.m., when they passed a white pickup. They reportedly turned around and passed the truck again.
On the second pass, a man in camouflage pants and jacket allegedly climbed out of the pickup and opened fire on the Jeep with a high-powered rifle. Rounds hit Crow and the second passenger, who was slightly wounded. The driver was unhurt.
Public records showed that Orlosky lives on Wisecarver Truck Trail.
Brugos said Orlosky’s attorney called a homicide detective yesterday and arranged to meet a detective with the San Diego Regional Fugitive Task Force at the jail to surrender.
Well, that’s a big relief to know that Bob Orlosky is now behind bars, and not wandering around our hills with a rifle. I’d imagine that it’s some comfort to Chuck Crow’s family and friends as well, from a different perspective…
The news coverage of this tragedy has been very disappointing, and the story above continues that record of shallow coverage. Commenters on the several posts about this story have brought up far more details (which, I should note, I have no way to verify) than all the local media combined. I’ve searched extensively using Google, Google Images, and Google News, and have been unable to find references to several of the more interesting things that commenters have mentioned: photos of the jeep after the shooting on Wisecarver Truck Trail, copper scraps found in the jeep, or the glass and bullet casings allegedly found along Wisecarver. If these elements of the story are indeed true, and the media hasn’t dug deep enough to uncover things ordinary citizens know, then it’s one more piece of evidence about the ineffectiveness of our mainstream media.
As if we needed more evidence.
Bob Orlosky is behind bars. I look forward to more details of this story emerging, though I suspect that won’t happen until the trial…
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteI will take mainstream media over yours anytime, your bias and dont really believe in the 1st ammendment.
In the old blog, Tom said:
ReplyDeleteThe preceding comment was made by the commenter affectionately dubbed “CAPS LOCK” by some other commenters. He or she is very upset with me because I chose not to approve some comments that were, in my judgment, over the line (sometimes way over!) of acceptability for this blog. None of these rejected comments added anything useful to the discussion; most of them were bile-filled personal insults to myself or other commenters. I have rejected more comments in the past few days than in the entire previous history of this blog — every one of them from CAPS LOCK, who has concluded that my disinterest in being insulted means that I don’t believe in the first amendment <smile>.
In the old blog, Daniel Tyack said:
ReplyDeleteHey man your doing a good job! I personally really appreciate what you are doing.
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteOn Friday, a man and woman in a green pickup truck were observed hanging posters of Bob Orlosky all over the intersection of Skyline and Wisecarver Truck Trails. They got into a verbal confrontation filled with profanity with the kids getting off the school bus when the kids began removing the posters. It was about this same time Bob Orlosky was surrendering to the police. Today the same man and woman, now in a red GEO, are picketing the same intersection with posters showing Chuck Crow’s picture. Given that Bob Orlosky is in custody after surrendering himself this activity can only be viewed as some sort of vindictive harassment of the Orlosky family and the neighborhood of the Truck Trails. I would like to request that everyone try to control their emotions and allow the police investigators and the courts to do their jobs in resolving this matter. The sad fact is that nothing will bring Chuck Crow back and both families are paying a price. Vindictive harassment is like pouring gasoline onto a fire. It will not bring healing to either of these families.
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteI find It interesting that by visiting the san diego superior court party name search page, which I visited prior to Orloskys arrest now has no information about Orlowsky. The District attorney has not even assigned a case number for the 187 {this is wierd} does this guy have diplomatic ammunity??? Previously this page displayed over 10 civil suits with Orlowsky being the defendant. 2 weeks ago under the criminal link of the same page It indicated that he had a previous criminal record. ???
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteIt is also very interesting that he is not listed on the criminal court calendar for east county or so bay or san diego!! whats going on with his arraignment?? If they dont charge him soon he walks Who doe he know?????
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/enterHere is the sight this is usually very current and updated a couple of times per day
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteIt is possible that he has what law enfocement refers to as a 5150 or a 72 hour mental health hold but he still has to be charged { for example if he was detained on fri at 4:30 and they cant tie him to the crime he walks in about a half hour}
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteIf you go to whos in jail his name is no longer listed so he made bail or they didnt charge him
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteOrlosky is obviouly free this explains no D A assignment, we live in strange times.
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteYou would think that the sheriffs dept would have the media call off the dogs! on the cox homepage dated today they are still calling Orlosky a wanted man.there are signs all over Rancho still posted. It sure would be nice to know whats going on! why did they erase his previous court cases?
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeletePersonally I dont trust a thing about the sheriff the district attorney or any Judge that sits on the bench in East county. I have seen Injustice in more than one circumstance with this whole system. It would be nice to know whats really going on here especially regarding public documents that were avaliable just two weks ago and that have just disappeared. Orlosky had at least two trespass issues within the el cajon court system where are they? not to mention several other suits including a felony case. We need to get some answers here. this is just not right!
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteIf Orlosky is innocent you would think that the sheriff would make such an announcement before someone decides to take the law into their own hands/ If the system is worried about suit would they say anything??
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteMy appologies I just rechecked the sheriffs web site something is obviouly wrong with their system as It showed no name when I checked previously. It appears that Orlosky has a court date of the 21st/ to him I say Merry christmas/ but what is up with the deleting the other files? this I have checked 4 days in a row.
In the old blog, Anonymous said: — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — View Case Detail - DEFENDANT JOSEPH R. ORLOSKYCase Number: CE266874 Case Site: East County Case Type: Criminal Date Filed: 12/07/2006 Defendant Last Name First Name AKA DA Number ORLOSKY JOSEPH R. MAP42701 Microfilm Microfilm ID Location Reel Number Frame Number This case has not been microfilmed. If you did not see the case you were looking for and want to go back to your prior set of case selections, select the Browser back arrow or 'Return to Previous Page' button below to go to the previous screen and select another case. Otherwise, you can choose the 'Return to Court Index System Menu' option highlighted below to start a new search.
ReplyDeleteIn the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteThis obviously just posted but beleive me he has a prior criminal record for this county which is not there now. It was not for this year several years ago,. unless they have for some reason sealed his file.
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDelete“This obviously just posted"It is not on the Sherrif’s website for I believe he surrendered in San Diego. Someone had already posted it in an above thread but here it is again. No time for spell check…sorry…http://www.sandiego.courts.ca.gov/CISPublic/enter
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeletePrior criminal record like 1992
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteOrlosky may have been justified in firing his weapon at the SUV. We have no idea what really happened that night. Orlosky might have reacted to a perceived threat from the men in that vehicle and shot at them out of fear. I don’t believe for one instant that those guys were up on that road just minding their own business when out of nowhere Orlosky just opened fired on them. Uh uh. No way. That dog don’t hunt.
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteHow is it that you feel he could possibly have justification? Because they were stealing? they were not armed he was. That dog dont hunt. Robbery nor grand theft constitutes murder.
In the old blog, Anonymous said:
ReplyDeleteThis guy killed a father , husband, a brother and a son he need to get locked up and never seen again what he did was wrong and if u new CHUCK u would agree with me.
In the old blog, James said:
ReplyDeleteCrow certainly gained public sympathy when reports first came out. He was a newlywed with a young boy. The probably scenario is this: they are shot at, they go to the police, they give them their story, and then Orlosky instantly looks like a cold-blodded killer regardless of the motive. If we really want to maintain any semblance of justice, then we must talk about Crow the individual, not Crow the “father, hsuband,…brother and …son”. That has no bearing on this case. These are the facts: three young men with copper in their jeep and receipts for copper sales were “looking for property” well after dark on someone elses property in Jamul. On their way out of the property, they were shot at by a man, Jospeh Robert Orlosky, and one of them died and one of them was injured.
In the old blog, James said:
ReplyDeleteCrow certainly gained public sympathy when reports first came out. He was a newlywed with a young boy. The probably scenario is this: they are shot at, they go to the police, they give them their story, and then Orlosky instantly looks like a cold-blodded killer regardless of the motive. If we really want to maintain any semblance of justice, then we must talk about Crow the individual, not Crow the “father, hsuband,…brother and …son”. That has no bearing on this case. These are the facts: three young men with copper in their jeep and receipts for copper sales were “looking for property” well after dark on someone elses property in Jamul. On their way out of the property, they were shot at by a man, Jospeh Robert Orlosky, and one of them died and one of them was injured.